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Great convo! Had the pleasure of speaking alongside John during Open Innovation session at Congress of New Urbanism 31. His wisdom and encouragement were one of my biggest takeaways from CNU31. Can't thank him enough.

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Thanks for the honesty of your experience, John. Fails happen. Misunderstandings abound and the dumb actions of others impact lots of people. It is so important to learn lessons from these situations, and the lessons are more about ourselves and our biases, than anything else. All the best, as you move forward. Thanks Kevin for exploring John's story.

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I agree with John about Ocean Springs, MS!

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