The Messy City
The Messy City Podcast
Going Deeper on Pre-Approved Plans
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Going Deeper on Pre-Approved Plans

A conversation with "The Jennifers" about South Bend, IN

In the very small world of people working on the concept of pre-approved building plans for infill development, Jennifer Griffin and Jennifer Settle have been pioneers. “The Jennifers,” as a few of us jokingly call them (I’ll have a future episode with “The Matts”) meet with me to discuss their work in South Bend, and their own journeys as entrepreneurs in the world of urban design and architecture.

Jen Griffin runs her own firm in Tulsa, OK called J Griffin Design.

Jen Settle now works with Opticos Design, in their Chicago office.

They both have worked extensively in a volunteer and partnership capacity with the Incremental Development Alliance and Neighborhood Evolution.

For more detailed information on the work in South Bend, click here.

As a side note, for anyone interested in more discussion on entrepreneurship while being a Mom, check out this episode with Alli Quinlan.


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Music notes: all songs by low standards, ca. 2010. Videos here. If you’d like a CD for low standards, message me and you can have one for only $5.

Intro: “Why Be Friends

Outro: “Fairweather Friend

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